Recently my daughter's choir sang at a benefit for an urban soup kitchen. The group was asked not to be "too Christian" because this is an interfaith soup kitchen. The point need not have been made; the group and its director are sensitive to and respectful of the faith traditions of others. Nevertheless, the conversation led to some reflection on what it means to be "too Christian" and whether or not it's ever possible or appropriate to be anything but who you are. To this group, being Christian at all means being kind and doing good in every way possible; it means loving people and being open to the changes love brings. That's all
Among the songs the children sang was the Prayer of Saint Francis of Assisi. Here are its 13 lines.
Among the songs the children sang was the Prayer of Saint Francis of Assisi. Here are its 13 lines.
Lord, make me an instrument of your peace.
Where there is hatred, let me sow love;
Where there is injury,pardon;
Where there is doubt, faith;
Where there is despair, hope;
Where there is darkness, light;
And where there is sadness, joy.
O Divine Master, grant that I may not so much seekto be consoled as to console;
To be understood as to understand;
To be loved as to love.
For it is in giving that we receive;
It is in pardoning that we are pardoned;
and it is in dying that we are born to eternal life. Amen.
Where there is hatred, let me sow love;
Where there is injury,pardon;
Where there is doubt, faith;
Where there is despair, hope;
Where there is darkness, light;
And where there is sadness, joy.
O Divine Master, grant that I may not so much seekto be consoled as to console;
To be understood as to understand;
To be loved as to love.
For it is in giving that we receive;
It is in pardoning that we are pardoned;
and it is in dying that we are born to eternal life. Amen.
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That's a beautiful prayer! To me, being a pagan means being kind and doing good in every way possible; it means loving people and being open to the changes love brings. Too christian, too pagan... I don't believe in that.
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Happy Thursday! :)
I really like the history behind the saint! And these lines from that prayer is just how it should be.
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Amen!
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Beautiful! Happy TT :)
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Wow. That is timeless, and so poignant. Thanks.
ReplyDeleteThose are beautiful lines.
ReplyDeletes Ahh, yes! Great words to live by. Thanks for the reminder.
ReplyDeleteAbsolutely perfect!
ReplyDeleteahhhh...not touching this one :-) Religion and politics...uh uh! Love the prayer song :)
ReplyDeleteAmen...what a great prayer!! Happy TT my friend and blessings to you. Thanks for stopping by. Its always great to see you:)
ReplyDeleteVery nice... I've noticed these days that some people seem to lose track of the point of the religion and are too focused on which religion they or someone else is, or church attendance. I have trouble deciding myself, I'm Lutheran by default, but honestly I can't say I believe it's right over any other. To me, as long as you strive to be the best person you can, and by that I mean to do right as much as you can (be loving, kind, helpful, etc. and it's not always easy as I'm sure most people know!) then that is the best practice of religion you can do, no matter how often you do or don't go to church, or what name you call your deity by.
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I have a number of friends who are Capuchin Friars. They are some of the most wonderful people I've ever met - great friends. So I know a bit about Br. Francis - but I've not read the prayer. Thank you for that!
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I love the music and the mood you've chosen to put with St. Francis' prayer. Thanks. Your blog always lifts my spirit.
ReplyDeleteVery interesting. We should always be ourselved. But, Jesus didn't go around proclaming, "I am Chris". To me, I heard him saying, "I am Love". So, let us show them by our actions of love. And hope they will see such love and think, "I want to be a part of that love".
ReplyDeleteI've always loved that prayer in words and in song. What a wonderful experience for your daughter and a good opportunity for dialogue with her about faith.
ReplyDeletein a world full of chaos, destruction, violence and death i would think the least of their worries should be about someone being "too christian". Jesus was not a "christian", He is The Truth, The Light and The Way.i love this prayer, what a lovely TT.
ReplyDeleteThank you, Sandy, for reminding me of St. Francis's prayer. It's one that shows up in the church bulletin from time to time, and it has a timeless wisdom.
ReplyDeleteI had to google to find the exact wording, but did you know that the full name of our city of Santa Fe is: The Royal City of the Holy Faith of St. Francis of Assisi? And my gallery is on San Francisco Street. And I used to live in the city of San Francisco. Should I be paying especially close attention to these thirteen lines?
I said this one in passage meditation for a couple of years. Now I'm doing Lao Tzu.
ReplyDeleteI have this prayer on a plaque at the end of our hallway. Beautiful words!
ReplyDeleteAbsolutely excellent. My favorite.
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That is a wonderful prayer, and a wonderful thing to do. Great TT. Thanks so much for stopping by my blog. Happy TT.
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I've always loved the prayer of St. Francis. Now if only everyone on earth could put it to practice...
ReplyDeleteVery nice prayer, I love the in pardoning we are being pardoned. I think this shows the true meaning of being a Christian, as you said, being kind and doing nice to others. So many are lost to God because of the servants on earth. I think this prayer helps to remind us of our real purpose. Kindness and love.
ReplyDeletevery nice prayer. so touching. great post
ReplyDeleteI loved singing in a choir when I was a kid. I hope your daughter enjoys it.
ReplyDeleteThanks for the comment on my TT post. :)
what a nice prayer. i'm glad i didn't miss this post.
ReplyDeleteBeautiful words.
ReplyDeleteBeautiful prayer. It reminds me of my grandma, my hero. This was her favorite song and prayer. She passed away 2 years ago this August and we sang it at her funeral. Still makes me cry when I hear it. Great TT. Thanks for visiting.
ReplyDeleteI find that living my life as a follower of the Christ is all about balancing paradoxes. I love this prayer too! And a couple more of my favorite prayers are, "Lord, i believe. Help my unbelief," and "Lord, i am willing to be made willing..."
ReplyDeleteAnd yes, i will do the meme. Very soon. Sorry about the delay. Definitely feeling peppier than when i wrote my last post... Travel always does that to me... :)
Hope you are well!
Very beautiful Sandy!
ReplyDeleteMay Christians always be "too Christian" and rejoice in it. :)
ReplyDeleteBeautiful :)
ReplyDeleteThanks for visiting, and happy TT!!
This is new to me. The sentiment is perfect for All of us, not just Christian. From this perspective, how can one be "too Christian?"
ReplyDeleteI love St. Francis. I think this would be perfect to have in my garden.
Sandy - Thanks for visiting my blog and leaving me a comment.
ReplyDeleteI think I understand the "too Christian" thing. This is not a time for proselytizing when we come together to do good. Rather it is a time to put away our differences and concentrate on the virtues we share with others of faith. To put first in our minds the desire to help others, in this case physically. There are so many other occasions when it is appropriate to share our unique beliefs that we don't need to introduce them into this kind of situation.
I love St Francis' prayer. He expresses many universal truths. I can't think of anything more appropriate for an inter-faith project to aid others.
That is a beautiful prayer and I think the people at the soup kitchen would find it beautiful too. Very nice TT.
ReplyDeleteI doubt that Saint Francis of Assisi too worried about being too Christian.
ReplyDeleteI love the prayer.
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You are so deep thinking and also thinking outside the box for you TT I like that thanks for always making me think
ReplyDeleteThis is lovely! It reminds me of the eulogy delivered at Bobby Kennedy's funeral: "a good and decent man, who saw wrong and tried to right it, saw suffering and tried to heal it, saw war and tried to stop it." We should all aim so high. Thank you. (And thanks for visiting my TT)
ReplyDeleteThis is one of my favorite prayers. It says it all. Beautiful!
ReplyDeleteNow I want to hear that prayer set to music. It's lovely!
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I am being reminded more and more of the importance of speaking the truth while being mindful of avoiding negativity,judgement, or making another uncomfortable in how we share our belief. We Christians, Catholic or other, tend to forget that the basic message of Christianity is LOVE. Embracing that reality, we could never be "too Christian". St. Francis' beautiful prayer says it all.
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Annie
I can't help but to agree on their definition of being a Christian. There is no other greater good on this earth (aside from God Himself of course) than doing good for your fellowmen.
ReplyDeleteSandy, pardon me, I took the liberty of copying your "peace" widget and embedded it on my blog. It was very inspirational. Thank you so much.
I have a multi-faith family, and we respect and attend each other's churches. there is no such thing as "too Christian", this sounds like "don't have too much faith"... weird! but the prayer comes and heals.
ReplyDeleteSandy, when I was in high school (Our Lady of Wisdom Academy) I was in the Glee Club (all girls) and we sang the Prayer of St. Francis. I sang the alto part and can sing it to this day! I can't sing the soprano part of course because I never sang it. But of course I recognize it sung in all its parts and it never fails to being tears to my eyes...
ReplyDeleteThat is a beautiful prayer, and it sound just right for the occasion. I bet the choir sounded fantastic!
ReplyDeleteSimply beautiful, I love it, we can learn a lot from St. Francis.
ReplyDeleteBeautiful. Thanks for sharing.
ReplyDeleteI love saying that prayer -even silently. So meaningful.
ReplyDeleteBTW, if too Christian means showing others about the meaning of Christ's love (in all our actions), then call me a pagan. :-)
This is a beautiful prayer and I remember singing this hymn in church. Happy TT!
ReplyDeleteI wish that someone would accuse me of being too Christian, as St. Francis was.
ReplyDeleteThat's like a lifetime goal!
Always nice to see this prayer. Didn't know it was set to music.
ReplyDeleteIf I may speak now as a Jewish Israeli--When we go to some interfaith service, it is just expected that Christians will worship as Christians, and Muslims as Muslims,etc. If this were a problem, we wouldn't go. Of course it's nice to find liturgy or hymns that everyone can do together. But no need to for you to become "decaffeinated" Christians.
P.S. I just posted a sunset over our neighboring FRANCISCAN monastery at http://jerusalemhillsdailyphoto.blogspot.com/2008/05/monastic-sky-watch.html#links
Shalom to you.
This is a beautifully written and wise post. The prayer of St. Francis is one of my absolute favorites and it was played on the church organ at my wedding. :-)
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